Believe it or not, the woman and smaller child in the right-hand image are the same people as in the left-hand image. There's only three weeks between the pictures.
Central India, 1983.
Say what you like about missionaries - and I've said plenty about them myself, some of it on DA, see [link] especially, but also [link] - but there's no denying the value of some of what they do. There was nothing wrong with this child, or his mother, that couldn't be cured by a few weeks of good nourishing food. While they were in the hospital, she was also taught a lot about nutrition, so there was some hope that they might stay healthy, and even that other people in her village might also learn from her. On the other hand, it's all very well to know about nutrition, it's another matter to afford the things you need, or to be able to grow them. But she was better equipped to make informed choices amongst what she could afford, grow, or find.
There are issues around the new clothes and the new silver chain, but I might write another prose deviation about that - it's too much for a description of a couple of photos.
I know of certain 'elements' who criticize the Christian missionaries' work; some of them going to the extent to attacking them/their establishments. Their Argument usually is that the missionaries, in the garb of doing social service, brainwash the poor tribals and convince them to convert to Christianity.
I find such notions ridiculous..I think most missionaries don't do it for the only 'converting' people. Even if few of them do, why should anyone be bothered by it? For 1. In India everyone is free to follow and promote their faith and 2. If they are so concerned about 'conversion' why don't they leave their cushy homes, go out into the remote areas and do the kind of work, the missionaries do?
Thanks for that thoughtful (and useful, coming from someone who actually knows something about the situation) comment!
There's actually a lot more to be said on both sides - I'm certainly not 100% in favour of everything every missionary does! I ought to get round to writing it all up sometime soon.
One of my biggest gripes both with many missionaries and with many of the missionaries' opponents is the arrogant assumption that the tribal people don't have perfectly good minds of their own - on average as good as anyone else's (and probably better than the minds of those with the arrogant assumptions).
No doubts on the tribal people's capability to think for themselves. But we'll have to admit that they've largely been left behind in the development process. While their skills and abilities were better suited to adapt to the environment they have lived in for generations, the world around them is changing fast..and unfortunately, Indian development hasn't been inclusive and broad based to the extent desired.. In the context, whatever be the motive, one can't downplay the missionaries' work, which often results in upliftment(relative), if not in empowerment always.
Agreed on all points. As I said, I'm not 100% in favour of everything every missionary does - but I'm certainly not (as I think was clear from the original Artist's Comments) 100% against everything they do, either!
Their skills are more suited to the environment they've lived in for generations, because those are the skills they've learnt in childhood; their innate abilities vary over the same range as anyone else's. ~cocooned is 50% Adivasi - and is currently doing a Music degree at Oxford University; ~conskeptical, also 50% Adivasi, is a software engineer with one of the world's leading microprocessor design companies. (That's my two children.)
I agree 100% with you Clive. I spoke of people who are living in their native areas (If they're not yet been displaced by some dam or S.E.Z.) and for some reasons could not pick-up the skills which'd make them competitive with the fast-changing world; not that they don't have the ability to learn these skills. The better way to help them would obviously be to impart them with the skills and then equal opportunities, although it's involves hard work and results take time to show. The point I make and think you too agree to is that the some help is better than none.
Sometimes the help, although well-intentioned, is actually counterproductive; sometimes some of things done to help are productive, and others counterproductive - the nett effect can be difficult to estimate; often the nett effect is clearly positive (as in the case my pictures relate to).
That's missionaries. Industrialists? Mostly they make great boasts about trying to help, but many of them have no good intentions at all from the beginning. Certainly some of them have good intentions, whatever the actual effects; but equally certainly some of them are motivated purely by greed.
There are those who have disputed it. The most obvious thing I've no proof of is the time between the two pictures. Less obviously, some folks have claimed that the pictures show different people. If so, I obviously took some trouble to get details right: not merely the bead necklace, rings and nose stud, but the shape of the little boy's lower lip, his mother's top lip, his nose, and his right eyebrow - all of which, while by no means unique, are quite distinctive.
Little boys filling out with a few weeks good feeding isn't at all unusual in such circumstances, and washing the dust off, oiling the skin, and putting on new clothes makes people feel good and look good for very little effort. The most dramatic change, to my mind, is the mother's cheeks.
I know of certain 'elements' who criticize the Christian missionaries' work; some of them going to the extent to attacking them/their establishments.
Their Argument usually is that the missionaries, in the garb of doing social service, brainwash the poor tribals and convince them to convert to Christianity.
I find such notions ridiculous..I think most missionaries don't do it for the only 'converting' people. Even if few of them do, why should anyone be bothered by it? For 1. In India everyone is free to follow and promote their faith and 2. If they are so concerned about 'conversion' why don't they leave their cushy homes, go out into the remote areas and do the kind of work, the missionaries do?
There's actually a lot more to be said on both sides - I'm certainly not 100% in favour of everything every missionary does! I ought to get round to writing it all up sometime soon.
One of my biggest gripes both with many missionaries and with many of the missionaries' opponents is the arrogant assumption that the tribal people don't have perfectly good minds of their own - on average as good as anyone else's (and probably better than the minds of those with the arrogant assumptions).
While their skills and abilities were better suited to adapt to the environment they have lived in for generations,
the world around them is changing fast..and unfortunately, Indian development hasn't been inclusive and broad based
to the extent desired.. In the context, whatever be the motive, one can't downplay the missionaries' work, which often results in upliftment(relative), if not in empowerment always.
Their skills are more suited to the environment they've lived in for generations, because those are the skills they've learnt in childhood; their innate abilities vary over the same range as anyone else's. ~cocooned is 50% Adivasi - and is currently doing a Music degree at Oxford University; ~conskeptical, also 50% Adivasi, is a software engineer with one of the world's leading microprocessor design companies. (That's my two children.)
Sometimes the help, although well-intentioned, is actually counterproductive; sometimes some of things done to help are productive, and others counterproductive - the nett effect can be difficult to estimate; often the nett effect is clearly positive (as in the case my pictures relate to).
That's missionaries. Industrialists? Mostly they make great boasts about trying to help, but many of them have no good intentions at all from the beginning. Certainly some of them have good intentions, whatever the actual effects; but equally certainly some of them are motivated purely by greed.
Little boys filling out with a few weeks good feeding isn't at all unusual in such circumstances, and washing the dust off, oiling the skin, and putting on new clothes makes people feel good and look good for very little effort. The most dramatic change, to my mind, is the mother's cheeks.